I am going through the process of hitting some of the major highlights of Destiny’s most significant moments in his streaming career for any of his own character development, as well as those moments that have educational value for the audience enshrined within it.

I took somewhere closing in on the 3.5 hours watching/listening to the Destiny Bob7 Manifesto, which was the crescendo in the overall Bob7 Manipulation Saga that Destiny had experienced.

That’s quite a long time to listen to a stream, especially with multiple pauses given that it’s a deep dive of a drama situation through a document Destiny had crafted up that he’s going over on stream (“the Bob7 Manifesto”). For this reason, on this once through, I didn’t take any physical notes, but had some thoughts and may revisit this topic at a later point in time (“May-Add-Additional-Information-Later” = MAAIL).

Thoughts (2025-03-06)

The Context & The Content

As someone who had mainly started paying attention to regular drama content of Destiny well after this whole situation had transpired, I recall that the Bob7 Situation and Bob7 Manifesto had a become a cohering filter through which Destiny would then approach other, especially hectic, online drama scenarios.

In later streams during various later arcs, Destiny would mention the Bob7 Situation in reference to various types of behavior he might see in people in these arcs, as well as the actions that Destiny had taken then and may need to take in current/future arcs.

Noteworthy here is that the Bob7 Situation seems to be the first on-stream scenario where Destiny was able to capture “irrefutable proof” that Bob7 was the “bad guy” and that Destiny was simultaneously the “good guy” for bringing him to justice through his manifesto, whilst also the “victim” for having endured such an attempt on his public profile.

Given that from what I can tell, Bob7 had deserted any effort to defend himself and immediately fled as soon as Destiny had dropped his voluminous manifesto on stream condemning his actions, effectuating in the court of online streamer political and drama opinions that Destiny was clearly in the right and Bob7 was clearly in the wrong. But Destiny’s actions here may have had additional consequences here as well, if I’m not reading too much into it. For one, the fact that Destiny vivaciously defended himself in such a booming manner and to such roaring effect, that I think a lot of people in the Twitch drama and politics world who may have been friendly with Bob7 in the past had become fearful of and persuaded by Destiny, and had otherwise cut complete ties with Bob7, leaving him completely isolated in the aftermath of all this…to this day, I believe. As well, and maybe this is a stretch, Destiny’s righteous indignation– complete with the receipts, pointed logic, and booming rhetoric — cemented his place as a judicious presence of moral responsibility when it comes to intellectual honesty and not letting bad actors get away with sneaking one by, as far as the streamer politics world was concerned.

Destiny presented the manifesto very narratively, building up tension with identifying the sort of behavior of Bob7 in the beginning of the stream, and then slowly releasing more substantive receipts until the big “nuke drops” toward the end.

In the Google Doc he presented on stream, often each individual claim made had numerous pieces of evidence (mainly Discord logs) that helped establish provenance of timelines as well as patterns of behavior. After each individual claim made, Destiny would present additional context outside of the document.

Given the rigor of the whole thing, the whole reading of the document felt quite persuasive to audiences, or at least his audience.

What was interesting as well in Destiny going over the document is that Destiny had characterized Bob7 as a master manipulator, and Destiny would make asides at times to give a little lesson in psychology to explain the manipulative behavior. In a future watch-through, I would take notes on more of these, as it’s interesting to hear Destiny talk about different types of manipulator behavior that exists.

From what I recall from the recent watch, Destiny said one thing Bob7 had did was–which he said is a sign of a master manipulator–is to tell 3 different narratives of the same story to 3 different people.

Destiny has said that he was “very good at talking”, and that Boby7 “is one of the more manipulative people that he had ever encountered.” He said that Bob7 was very “jokey” and that this gives him plausible deniability for later conversations. Destiny at a later point throughout the stream elaborates further that Bob7 would joke about something at one point in time, but then later use it to his advantage as if what he said as a joke was actually serious, or otherwise to use toward his advantage as if he was serious. An example Destiny gave is that Bob7 would say that he’s “asexual” but then use that pretext as a means of trying to acquire nudes from women.

Destiny said that Bob7 would also try to character-assassinate Destiny by trying to characterize him as “manipulative”. Destiny rebuffs the claim by saying that he’s pretty free with interacting with people, is concerned sometimes with putting too much stress on other people, and will pull back from the relationship at times to show that he’s not manipulative even if he knows that there’s “some piece of shit telling them lies.”

When it came to Bob7 being caught in a lie, Destiny said that he would often own the “first smaller lie” to then tell a “second bigger lie.” Destiny said that when both of those would fall through, as had occurred once more people had started suspecting Bob7 shenanigans, he would them pivot conversational topics.

Destiny also lined out that Bob7 would use functionality of the various stream and chat software to disseminate false perceptions. For instance, Destiny said that Bob7 sometimes would do weird things with the time logs so it would seem that Bob7 was not having conversations at times that he was. Also, Destiny said that Bob7 had a done a little bit of baiting by earlier (off-stream) alluding to an issue vaguely to one girl so that when the girl asked Bob7 about it on stream, Bob7 was able to clip it and get a whole bunch of upvotes on r/LivestreamFails by making it seem like the one girl brought the issue up out of nowhere even though Bob7 was the one who had actually broached the issue first off-stream– effectively reframing the public perception through clipping to get the livestreamer Reddit community on his side instead of hers even though she had the moral high ground in actuality.

Interestingly, Destiny went even further in scope than just condemning Bob7, but also went after streamers Kaceytron and Minx, who he attributed to be colluding with Bob7 to shape false narratives. Destiny taking an approach of going over all of the relevant connections and their maneuverings in this situation helped to shed some light to the audience of the greater complexity of the situation even outside of Bob7.

Observer’s Meta-Context

This all is just shitlib Twitch e-girl harem kompromat ring palace politics.

This whole “he-said, she-said” does get people to tune into your stream/video/personality and allows you to display your high verbal IQ and intellectual rigor on camera, educating your audience in this regard.

However, this pattern of back-and-forth Discord log behavior, through a different lens, are just lonely Internet people engaging with other lonely Internet people on camera, with a number of these characters not really being all that attractive or inspiring in the first place. While “Bob7” may be the snake in the budget palace court, he’s got no physique, intellectual presence, or daring personality to really put up much opposition in Destiny’s arc.

No, the real excitement comes more from Destiny laying down the law, rather than taking a down a “notorious supervillain”.

A line item that’s pretty cringe in this whole ordeal is that Destiny’s version of “the law” is one of male feminists who treat the women of this world like they are real characters in this script. His open relationship where he lets his wife sleep with whatever men and where he sleeps with whatever women is basically asking for problems like these, of which he can coast off of the revenue from the YouTube clicks for getting into the drama surrounding his own life. It’s like if someone left on their stove burner and put some cardboard near it, left their house, and then came back to IRL livestream in an excitable tone from their phone that their house is burning down. it’s pretty obvious at this point that you’re not going to find people of sheer altruism in Twitch, and certainly not this side of Twitch; it should be a no-brainer that people will try to snake you where they can around these parts, especially when you are the bigger streamer from which others can anklebite and cloutshark off of.

The Value

• How to judiciously strike down snakes in the court of public opinion
• Master Manipulator Tactics 101
• How employing a one-strike blitzkrieg with an oratory manifesto on stream, whilst subsequently blocking any less persuasive rebuttals from the opposition and completely cutting ties *tends to ensure* audience-capture of the bulwark of your audience, and if you have enough clout, your evidence is comprehensive & airtight, and your reputation precedes you, you can sweep in a winner-take-all fashion to establish near-complete narrative control to the entire Social internet ecosystem.

TL;DR Strike hard once and publicly when you’re in the right of way, and your opposition may simply completely crumble.